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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t memorize, change your neural pathways!</title>
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		<title>By: Ed Bilodeau</title>
		<link>http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2004/10/08/dont-memorize-change-your-neural-pathways/comment-page-1/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Bilodeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that there is little value in student memorizing facts and theorems without learning how to apply them. I also got through my physics undergrad largely on intuition. I was too lazy to work out hundreds of problems, so I focused on the basic principles and relied on my understanding and intuition to solve whatever problems came up. I did OK, but I wouldn&#039;t advise this as a study technique to anyone. Had I done the hundreds of problems, I would have done much better and would be eligible for SSHRC grants! 

Even relying on intuition, however, I need to know something. I needed to know the basic formulas. You do need to be able to remember things to be able to apply them. To give a simplistic example, memorizing your phone number without knowing how to use a phone is fairly useless. However, knowing how to use a phone without knowing any phone numbers is equally useless!

I promise I won&#039;t let my students get away with rote memorization. They will need to remember things, but they will need to know how to apply their knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that there is little value in student memorizing facts and theorems without learning how to apply them. I also got through my physics undergrad largely on intuition. I was too lazy to work out hundreds of problems, so I focused on the basic principles and relied on my understanding and intuition to solve whatever problems came up. I did OK, but I wouldn&#8217;t advise this as a study technique to anyone. Had I done the hundreds of problems, I would have done much better and would be eligible for SSHRC grants! </p>
<p>Even relying on intuition, however, I need to know something. I needed to know the basic formulas. You do need to be able to remember things to be able to apply them. To give a simplistic example, memorizing your phone number without knowing how to use a phone is fairly useless. However, knowing how to use a phone without knowing any phone numbers is equally useless!</p>
<p>I promise I won&#8217;t let my students get away with rote memorization. They will need to remember things, but they will need to know how to apply their knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Lemire</title>
		<link>http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2004/10/08/dont-memorize-change-your-neural-pathways/comment-page-1/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lemire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; How do you avoid memorizing theorems and formulas for these? 

Where I studied mathematics the most, at UofT, you didn&#039;t have much in terms of &quot;state the XYZ theorem&quot;. I can&#039;t remember much, yes I&#039;m that old, but I&#039;m pretty sure most questions on exams were the problem-solving type. Beside, knowing the theorems well was a non-issue if you did the (very hard) homeworks: there is no way you didn&#039;t internalized most of the important theorems if you sweated for hours over how you are supposed to use them to solve a given problem. Over time, you came to understand that knowing the statement of theorem was actually knowing very little. You had to really gain an intuition for the theorem... and once you have the intuition, the rest is easy.

In fact, a training in math., CS, Physics or Chemistry should be pretty much identical. Assuming you attend a good school. A school that has you memorize theorems and formulas to pass courses is a bad one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> How do you avoid memorizing theorems and formulas for these? </p>
<p>Where I studied mathematics the most, at UofT, you didn&#8217;t have much in terms of &#8220;state the XYZ theorem&#8221;. I can&#8217;t remember much, yes I&#8217;m that old, but I&#8217;m pretty sure most questions on exams were the problem-solving type. Beside, knowing the theorems well was a non-issue if you did the (very hard) homeworks: there is no way you didn&#8217;t internalized most of the important theorems if you sweated for hours over how you are supposed to use them to solve a given problem. Over time, you came to understand that knowing the statement of theorem was actually knowing very little. You had to really gain an intuition for the theorem&#8230; and once you have the intuition, the rest is easy.</p>
<p>In fact, a training in math., CS, Physics or Chemistry should be pretty much identical. Assuming you attend a good school. A school that has you memorize theorems and formulas to pass courses is a bad one.</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
		<link>http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2004/10/08/dont-memorize-change-your-neural-pathways/comment-page-1/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why I went into computer science. How did you handle closed-book, closed-notes tests? How do you avoid memorizing theorems and formulas for these?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why I went into computer science. How did you handle closed-book, closed-notes tests? How do you avoid memorizing theorems and formulas for these?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Lemire</title>
		<link>http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2004/10/08/dont-memorize-change-your-neural-pathways/comment-page-1/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lemire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take it, Claire, that memorizing dates is not your forte, right? Yet, by all accounts, you must be good in history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it, Claire, that memorizing dates is not your forte, right? Yet, by all accounts, you must be good in history.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2004/10/08/dont-memorize-change-your-neural-pathways/comment-page-1/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2004 09:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thesis is full of highlighted dates like 1702? or 3? I even wasted a whole page the oother day because mybecause I thought two pieces of evidence were in the same year and they weren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thesis is full of highlighted dates like 1702? or 3? I even wasted a whole page the oother day because mybecause I thought two pieces of evidence were in the same year and they weren&#8217;t.</p>
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