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	<title>Comments on: Good research: invent new problems or explain mysteries</title>
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		<title>By: Seb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a connection between your ideas and Kuhn&#039;s concepts of &quot;normal science&quot; and &quot;revolutionary science&quot;. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions#Coherence

I think Peter is right, these kinds of work correspond to different personality types. From an impact standpoint, the mistake you don&#039;t want to make is to do refinement work when the field is on the verge of a revolution. But I suppose that can be hard to guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a connection between your ideas and Kuhn&#8217;s concepts of &#8220;normal science&#8221; and &#8220;revolutionary science&#8221;. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions#Coherence" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions#Coherence</a></p>
<p>I think Peter is right, these kinds of work correspond to different personality types. From an impact standpoint, the mistake you don&#8217;t want to make is to do refinement work when the field is on the verge of a revolution. But I suppose that can be hard to guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevembuangga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevembuangga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 05:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL
The early bird get the worm but the second mouse get the cheese...
It&#039;s true in industry too (even more so...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL<br />
The early bird get the worm but the second mouse get the cheese&#8230;<br />
It&#8217;s true in industry too (even more so&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;make up a new problem and be the first to propose a solution&lt;/i&gt;

I am rather attracted to this type of research, as well.  However, having gone through the process a few time on a few (minor, but solid) research topics, I find that, because most of my initial work/effort is spent inventing a new problem, my initial proposed solutions are decent, but not great.  When the new topic area finally catches on, it&#039;s because some (2) has looked at my (3), and easily made an order-of-magnitude improvement on it.

Thus, even though that (3) work was the first for a given area, the (2) work gets most of the perceptual credit.

So I still believe that being able to open up new (3) areas is a very important research skill.  But aside from personal satisfaction, isn&#039;t it rather dangerous to be a &quot;first mover&quot;?  Isn&#039;t history replete with examples of the &quot;second mover&quot; getting most of the credit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>make up a new problem and be the first to propose a solution</i></p>
<p>I am rather attracted to this type of research, as well.  However, having gone through the process a few time on a few (minor, but solid) research topics, I find that, because most of my initial work/effort is spent inventing a new problem, my initial proposed solutions are decent, but not great.  When the new topic area finally catches on, it&#8217;s because some (2) has looked at my (3), and easily made an order-of-magnitude improvement on it.</p>
<p>Thus, even though that (3) work was the first for a given area, the (2) work gets most of the perceptual credit.</p>
<p>So I still believe that being able to open up new (3) areas is a very important research skill.  But aside from personal satisfaction, isn&#8217;t it rather dangerous to be a &#8220;first mover&#8221;?  Isn&#8217;t history replete with examples of the &#8220;second mover&#8221; getting most of the credit?</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Daume III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal Daume III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at first when i read this i thought: yes, exactly!  we need more (1) and (3) papers and fewer (2).  but now i&#039;m not so sure.  the issue for me is that a lot of times i feel like the process of going through the &quot;sludge&quot; of (2) is what eventually leads to (1)s and (3)s.  in fact, (1)s would almost be impossible without lots of people (maybe not me!) working on many many minor (2)s.  i feel it&#039;s also important for (3)s, too, because in order to do something new, you need to know what is possible already... at lot of times we have something that looks like a (2) only to find out a few years later that it actually has many qualities of a (3) that were simply lurking initially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at first when i read this i thought: yes, exactly!  we need more (1) and (3) papers and fewer (2).  but now i&#8217;m not so sure.  the issue for me is that a lot of times i feel like the process of going through the &#8220;sludge&#8221; of (2) is what eventually leads to (1)s and (3)s.  in fact, (1)s would almost be impossible without lots of people (maybe not me!) working on many many minor (2)s.  i feel it&#8217;s also important for (3)s, too, because in order to do something new, you need to know what is possible already&#8230; at lot of times we have something that looks like a (2) only to find out a few years later that it actually has many qualities of a (3) that were simply lurking initially.</p>
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		<title>By: HA</title>
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		<dc:creator>HA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 04:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming up with good research problem which can sustain for ten years (in research community) is as difficult as solving a ten year old open problem. It&#039;s not *easy*.

Good research problems indeed means good research. Coming up with a new system is rather better and you get to solve the system in stages. But then you don&#039;t remain a theory guy.

It&#039;s good to define a very big goal at the very beginning of your career and start solving all small problems towards that goal. In between you&#039;ll find some *very good* problems. Either solve it on your own or collaborate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming up with good research problem which can sustain for ten years (in research community) is as difficult as solving a ten year old open problem. It&#8217;s not *easy*.</p>
<p>Good research problems indeed means good research. Coming up with a new system is rather better and you get to solve the system in stages. But then you don&#8217;t remain a theory guy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to define a very big goal at the very beginning of your career and start solving all small problems towards that goal. In between you&#8217;ll find some *very good* problems. Either solve it on your own or collaborate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Tunkelang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Tunkelang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making up a new problem and being the first to propose a solution has two advantages: you&#039;re not trying to crack a nut that everyone else has been trying to crack for a long time, plus you have the biggest potential upside for novel contribution. The downside, however, is that you have a far bigger onus to prove that the new problem you&#039;ve made up is worthwhile, since you don&#039;t have the validation of others. I suspect it&#039;s generally harder to publish results about a problem no one else has heard of. A cynical reviewer--or simply a rationally skeptical one--might suspect you of having made up a problem because you are unable to solve any of the ones already on the table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making up a new problem and being the first to propose a solution has two advantages: you&#8217;re not trying to crack a nut that everyone else has been trying to crack for a long time, plus you have the biggest potential upside for novel contribution. The downside, however, is that you have a far bigger onus to prove that the new problem you&#8217;ve made up is worthwhile, since you don&#8217;t have the validation of others. I suspect it&#8217;s generally harder to publish results about a problem no one else has heard of. A cynical reviewer&#8211;or simply a rationally skeptical one&#8211;might suspect you of having made up a problem because you are unable to solve any of the ones already on the table.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Turney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Turney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;make up a new problem and be the first to propose a solution&lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;re giving away my secrets! Seriously, the world needs both inventors and refiners. Which you choose is probably more a personality thing than a strategic decision making thing.</description>
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<p>You&#8217;re giving away my secrets! Seriously, the world needs both inventors and refiners. Which you choose is probably more a personality thing than a strategic decision making thing.</p>
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